The President easily vanquished many strawmen arguments, and outright called opposing positions false and lies. He basicly promised to do all the good things imaginable about healthcare reform, with no downside at all- no increase of our deficit, no coverage extended to illegal aliens, no coverage for abortion under the cover of healthcare. And claimed that he is trying to achieve bipartisan legislation passed for the benefit of all. He said the other side has no new ideas or plan. In the midst of the presidents narrative of the evil conservatives position, Joe Wilson shouted out “YOU lie!”- and of course all the democrats were flabbergasted that anyone could ever openly, publicly, and in formal setting disrespect the office of the Presidency.

And a contrast of the treatment of President Bush by democrats during his 2005 SOTU address, where he discussed the undeniable impending collapse of Social Security and the need for reform- reform which was opposed by democrats.

Id like to address some of President Obamas statements with actual goings on in congress to see where reality settles.

Obama says he wants bipartisanship in his speech, but…

Boehner: GOP leaders haven’t met Obama for health talks since April
By Molly K. Hooper – 09/09/09 11:09 AM ET

The ball is in President Obama’s court to reach out to Republicans if he wants a bipartisan bill on healthcare reform, House GOP Leader John Boehner (Ohio) said Monday morning.

Boehner told reporters that the president has not invited House GOP leaders to the White House for meetings on healthcare reform since the end of April.

Earlier this year, GOP leaders sent a letter to the president in May stating that they would like to work with the administration to find “common ground” on healthcare reform.

But the administration responded with a tersely worded letter indicating that they had healthcare reform under control.

But, it isnt just republicans that have been completely shut out from working on the legislation, but centrist and conservative (Blue Dog) democrats as well…

45 Centrist Democrats Protest Secrecy of Health Care Talks
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: May 11, 2009

WASHINGTON — Forty-five House Democrats in the party’s moderate-to-conservative wing have protested the secretive process by which party leaders in their chamber are developing legislation to remake the health care system.

The lawmakers, members of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Coalition, said they were “increasingly troubled” by their exclusion from the bill-writing process. …

The objective CBO standard challenges Obamas predictions of the cost of healthcare reform- which is fairly par for all government spending programs that end up costing many times more than projected.

White House, CBO debt forecasts challenge Obama
Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:27pm EDT
By Alister Bull and Andy Sullivan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. national debt will nearly double over the next 10 years, government forecasts showed on Tuesday, challenging President Barack Obama’s economic and healthcare overhaul agenda.

The White House midsession budget forecast and the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office both forecast that government revenues will be crimped by a slow recovery from the worst recession since the 1930s Great Depression, while spending on retirement and medical benefits soars.

The White House projected a cumulative $9 trillion deficit between 2010 and 2019, while the CBO pegged the total at $7.1 trillion because it assumed higher revenues as tax cuts expire.

The spending blitz could push the national debt, now more than $11 trillion, to close to $20 trillion. The debt is the total sum the government owes, while the deficit is the yearly gap between revenues and spending.

“If anyone had any doubts that this burden on future generations is unsustainable, they’re gone,” said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, adding that economic stimulus funds should be diverted to pay down U.S. debt. …

As for funding abortion:

Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah quietly asked the necessary questions. Pointing to the language mandating that health insurers participating in government “gateways” must include “essential community providers,” Hatch asked: “Would that include abortion providers? I mean it looks to me like you’re expanding it to where you—well, say for instance, like Planned Parenthood. Would that put them into this system?”

Mikulski was evasive.

“It would include women’s health clinics that provide comprehensive services, and under the definition of a women’s health clinic it would include Planned Parenthood clinics,” said Mikulski. “It does not in any way expand a service. In other words, it doesn’t expand, nor mandate an abortion service.”

“No,” said Hatch, “but it would provide for them.”

“It would provide for any service deemed medically necessary or medically appropriate,” said Mikulski. …

On funding to cover illegal aliens:

Well, Mr. President, that idea must have been tucked under a stack of background briefing papers over there in the corner of the table because the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says this about H.R. 3200, the Obamacare bill approved just before the recess by the House Energy and Commerce Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA:
“Under H.R. 3200, a ‘Health Insurance Exchange’ would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option…H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange.”

CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship. So, absent some major amendments to the legislation and a credible, concrete enforcement effort in action, looks like the myth on this issue is the one being spread by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al.

also, here the democrats vote against restricting confirming citizenship status of illegal aliens enrolling for taxpayer funded healthcare…

Public healthcare for illegals is latest hidden mandate in House reform bill
Friday, July 31st, 2009

Several weeks ago, The Huffington Post published an article by Deepak Bhargava decrying Congressional Democrats for excluding undocumented immigrants in their plans for healthcare reform. At the time, I accused the left-leaning blog of being out of touch with the mainstream liberal movement. Polling data demonstrates that 80% of Americans oppose providing government healthcare coverage for illegal immigrants and 70% say they would not support healthcare reform that included such a provision. Somehow that message has been lost on House Democrats debating healthcare reform in the Energy and Commerce Committee.

In a 29-28 vote last night, Democrats defeated an amendment proposed by Energy and Commerce Republican Nathan Deal requiring states to take steps to keep illegal aliens off the taxpayer subsidized Medicaid dole. Only 5 of 34 Democrats joined Republicans voting in favor of the provision. …

And the President himself has been seeking coverage for the 47 million uninsured in our country (which includes 10-12 million illegal aliens)- as we have discussed in this forum already. As well, that figure also includes several million young and healthy people that choose not to pay for health insurance- that they could afford.

And heres part of the republican plan, in addition to the biggest idea of allowing people to buy across State lines, and to drop State mandated coverage (lobbied for by healthcare industry) for such specifics as hair transplants, IVF and other fertility treatments, drug and alcohol rehab, gender reassignment, and other issues that most people do not need or want to pay for.

June 17, 2009 12:45 PM
House Republicans Offer Health Care Plan
Posted by Jill Jackson

House Republicans unveiled a plan today that they say would solve the nation’s health care crisis.

The four-page Republican health care outline lays out a plan that would allow states, associations and small businesses to pool together to offer health insurance. It would give tax credits to low and modest income Americans to help them buy health insurance. It would also let dependents under twenty-five stay on their parent’s health insurance.

Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the top Republican on the House tax-writing committee, said that provision alone would “cover seven million people in America.” …

So the existence of such facts as this should cause most reasonable people to call out Obamas blatant bullshit or lies for what they are.

Hope and Change!

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